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Post by intothenight on May 27, 2019 19:13:24 GMT
Just where do these two phrases come from? In one way or the other, they've been popularly used since the '70's. NASA once published an article trying to differentiate the difference between the two, but does this article reveal more than it should about the origins of these two phrases? NASA: Difference between Global Warming and Climate Change
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Post by IBDaMann on May 28, 2019 15:17:55 GMT
Just where do these two phrases come from? In one way or the other, they've been popularly used since the '70's. NASA once published an article trying to differentiate the difference between the two, but does this article reveal more than it should about the origins of these two phrases? NASA: Difference between Global Warming and Climate ChangeI have enough trouble getting beyond the idea of NASA thinking that any of this is their job ... then I read the following: First, NASA is a government agency, not a science and engineering firm. NASA does not get to declare what it means to be a scientist by writing "To a scientist." Clearly the author of the article is not honest enough to state that this is his or her opinion and instead needs for the world to believe that his or her opinion is actually the state of science. Secondly, the earth's surface is a wide-ranging spectrum of temperatures and no one knows what the average is, what is needed in order to measure any changes of the average surface temperature. Thirdly, built into the statement is the implicit assumption that such average temperature is, in fact, rising and that this rise is, in fact, due to human activity. Ergo, to accept the term is to accept these bogus assumptions. The Laws of Thermodynamics and the Stefan-Boltzmann Law have been around a lot longer than that. Scientists have known very well that no aerosols or atmospheric gases can simply change a temperature without creating/destroying additional energy, to have a cooler atmosphere heat a warmer surface or to have an increase in temperature with a corresponding decrease in radiance. So Global Warming does not refer to the warming of the globe, just of a small part of it. So there is a global climate? What's that? What science defines a "greenhouse gas" and determines how it "affects" thing? During the late 1980s one more term entered the lexicon, “global change.” This term encompassed many other kinds of change in addition to climate change. When it was approved in 1989, the U.S. climate research program was embedded as a theme area within the U.S. Global Change Research Program. NASA should just shut up and do their job of putting things into orbit.
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Post by intothenight on Jun 1, 2019 18:01:58 GMT
Heh. I guess NASA's been having trouble putting things into orbit. How long has it been since we put an astronaut into space?
NASA's 'job' changed in 1976 when the agency was tasked with monitoring 'ozone depletion' and 'climate change'. That change was made by Congress with Democrat majority in both House and Senate and signed into law by President Ford. I always knew he was milquetoast.
According to the report I quoted earlier, Wallace Broecker in a paper he wrote discussing the dangers of 'global warming', was the first to use the phrase 'climate change' (he used 'climatic change'). The phrase 'global warming' had been in use for some time. He convinced NASA to start using this term instead of 'global warming' and things went to the twit news media from there.
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